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[EternusIV]

For those of you with large enough star maps - please feel free to send me a PM about map patterns.

I had always suspected that the higher warp points translated to shorter routes between empires.

Every other month or so, I draw out my maps by hand and look for patterns.

I combined the entire map of another empire with my own and see a pattern. Its a bit jarbled looking at it in 2-d.....but if you write it out in layers....or if you could somehow look down upon your map, you would see a 4 to 8 pointed star....with each "arm" of the star representing a ring.

For those of you who have made contact with others, try this:

Make as tight of a circular path that you can along systems that connect to the systems where you spotted your neighbor(s). These rings will vary depending on the type of warp points you have surveyed....If you have no circular path, start knocking down warp points. Eventually, you will close the ring.

Sometimes the ring is a strange system of 1-way warp points....you can 1-way to your neighbor and your neighbor can 1-way back to you within a small ring of about 4-6 systems.

If we can collaborate using labels instead of system names to protect our privacy, we might be able to confirm a pattern.

If there is indeed a pattern, we could help speed the game up a bit by knowing what to look for

Of course, there is an odd chance that Pete and Russ announce that the layout is completely random :lol: But I'm almost 99% convinced otherwise.

[The Boo Consulate]

The Boo have long known that we were engineered long ago by the ancient Egg-Layers. Perhaps space and time are also manufactured?

Boo Consulate

[Sha'thar of the Gosht Kohr]

There's a rumor out there at Arcane Services has discovered a hidden route directly into the homeworld of the Everlasting Sp... oh! That's you!

[EternusIV]

Hardly

[Gary Carpenter]

You will need to explain the circles better than that for me to understand what the heck you are talking about.

Perhaps you are a plant or something.

[Lord Xaar]

Gary Carpenter, on May 19 2004, 06:07 PM, said:

Perhaps you are a plant or something.

Or smoking them maybe? :lol:

Sorry, I know it's a family board. I couldn't help it.

[EternusIV]

:lol:

Thats fair game considering the obscurity of my post

I'm trying things out on a CAD program. I'm trying to tie in Warp Points somehow so that I can explain things better.

The best way I can remotely explain what I mean is if you took a few moments to look at your map and draw your map with as many loops as you can. They should vary in size.

Bah.

I'm confusing the hell out of everyone again aint I?

[RTGPete]

Extra credit point for whatever brain-in-a-jar huuuman out there who can completely identify the system used to create the galactic warp map. Hint: no star has ever been created that was entirely unconnected to the rest of the grid, and every star has 3D coordinates attached to it behind the scenes...but you don't get to see those #'s

[EternusIV]

Encouraging news

I won't dream about waht to do with that extra credit point just yet though

[Sha'thar of the Gosht Kohr]

Sha'thar wonders, off-hand, if there has ever been a system created which is connected to the rest of the universe via a single one-way warp point out?

[hobknob]

Well, I have found a system with a oneway going in and a one way going out.

[EternusIV]

Sha'thar - Interesting....haven't seen it yet. Seems there is always a second path to the system on the other side of the 1-way WP

Hobkob- I've seen the same thing with 2 other empire maps. I suspect there is a second way into the system - otherwise what was the point of making the path include a pair of 1-way warp points? Who knows?


I've been messing with all types of data. A work in progress. I'll have more time next week to continue the project.

Curious as to other theories!

[The Oracle of Delphi]

RTGPete, on May 20 2004, 05:23 PM, said:

Extra credit point for whatever brain-in-a-jar huuuman out there who can completely identify the system used to create the galactic warp map.

A fractal....

(e.g. the Koch Snowflake, Jurassic Park Fractal, Sierpinski Triangle)

[octagon999]

hobknob, on May 21 2004, 05:06 PM, said:

Well, I have found a system with a oneway going in and a one way going out.

Makes you wonder if there are any "Sargasso Seas" out there. Only one-way warp points in, no warp points out.

[EternusIV]

Hehe - over time those Sargasso Seas would be nothing more than a graveyard for unfortunate explorers The Bermuda Triangle of the universe or some such? Thats a cool concept Octagon.

Oracle- Thats very possible. There is no obvious discernable geometirc pattern of connections over a scale of 120 systems. However, every algorithim has a restraint or confine. I still suspect that immediate neighbors are separated by a similar amount of systems/difficulty of warp path.