lugal Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Do at least a million. I do over 10 million per drop, if i got the ships avalable 50 million drops. Never had a loss, nor any new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxer Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thanks for the info, lugal. Looks like I have a bit of long term planning to do then :-) I'm currently concentrating on building Improved Ind. Complexs and Impro Stripmines, and dismantling the non-improved ones, whilst also building DCS's plus the anti-matter power plants to power them. I currently make enough Rare Elements to make about 500 ICE-1 per turn, so I'd better start increasing mining/production. The good thing is that my current freighter design has 250,000 cargo bays, and I can turn out 4 of those in short order to carry 1 million ICE. Cheers Gixxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobknob Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 If you can do large drops you should be doing them with ICE-3 or 4. I have only ever lost a yield when using small amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxer Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Well, it has been a year since I started with DCS, and now I have 100 on my homeworld, and am starting to export the building resources to build them on some of my colonies :-) Seen some pretty good gains on my mining production, and less reliance on Raw resources. I'm not making any more DCS on my homeworld for now, as my unemployed pop is reducing rapidly because of all the new mines I am building! I'll probably add more when I start reducing the number of Improved stripmines and Improved Industrial Complexes I need, due to less reliance on converting Raw Resources I noticed that DCS will only alter yields of existing resources though, and I wondered if ICE can alter a resource that is currently 0 yield? Otherwise, there will always be some need for Raw Resources, to fill the gaps in resource production. I'm also now producing enough Rare Elements for 5000 ICE-2 a turn, and rising, I have around 45,000 stockpiled so far, still a ways to go before I get a million :-) When I got ICE-2, I dropped all the ICE-1 I had made - around 6000 - on an unoccupied world as a test, and got much better results, good gains and no losses. When I get ICE-3, I'll probably drop all the ICE-2 on my first Gas Giant colony (I only recently found out you can colonise Gas Giants!) So thanks to everyone for the tips and info on DCS and ICE, really appreciated Gixxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugal Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I recommend you bump up your DCS's. With 10 thousand, you could hit cap in a few turns. Then put that pop back into something else. Only need 2 billion adv con mats. And those con mats can be used on adv ic's later. Gas giants are very difficult to impossible to colonise. Good luck. I lost a few thousand population before i could get everybody off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobknob Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 GGs are good to ice when you start needing more rsre elements but are not good for anybody to colonize really. Unless you crack them and then they are just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxer Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Thanks for the info. I remember reading somewhere that you start getting pop losses around 10,000 population, so I'll keep my GG colony small. I currently have around 1,200 pop in Subterranean cities, and they are growing, so all looks good atm. I'm planning on making it a mining world for Rare Elements, using DCS to improve the mining rate, should be useful once the Geothermal yield is high enough - I'm currently using Antimatter power stations to run the few I have there. Once I have 100k ICE-2 (or I get ICE-3, whichever comes first) I'll drop the ICE-2 on my GG, see what I get. Even if I get a catastrophe, it's only a small colony :-) And yes, Im setting up my HW to produce more building materials to build even more DCS there, as well as enough to export to my GG:-) Cheers, Gixxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxer Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Hi All, I'm now up to 200 DCS on my HW, and am getting decent Yield gains on everything. My Hydro Yield is over 5000, making it easy to power the DCS I build each turn :-) Been building 20 a turn for the last few turns, now reaching the point where I can produce enough Adv CM for 40 or 50 per turn, but my Hydro yield needs to be a bit higher to power them all! My GG is now over 3k population, and still gaining pop each turn, so turning into a useful mining world! I just got Advanced Stripmines a few turns ago, so upgrading from Improved Stripmines to Advanced is giving me all the spare population I need for my other mines. I'm only 2 or 3 turns away from Advanced IC too :-) Also, I'm recycling the Improved Heavy Machinery back into iron, to make Adv Hvy Mach for the Adv Stripmines :-) Need to build more recycling centres as there's big numbers involved, LOL. I'm now producing 50,000 ICE-2 per turn, my limit is the amount of production I can spare, as I am now getting more Rare Elements than I can convert each turn - this will change when I get Adv ICs. I haven't dropped any yet, I'll have half a million soon, I'll drop it on my GG then, to see what gains I get. I did notice that someone mentioned that even large ICE drops still don't add anything to resource yields that are 0, shame about that. I guess when my colonies are big enough, I'll be importing stuff I can't make on my HW. The only downside of all these tech advances is that the rebuilding of my plant's economies around the new tech is resulting in bigger turnsheets, my last 2 turns have been about 280 orders instead of my usual 160 or 200 orders a turn. Doesn't help that I'm rewriting my Colony routes for newer , faster colony ships I've been building :-) All in all, I'm at a really interesting point in the game :-) Cheers Gixxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 wait tell you get ice-3 or ice-4 then you will see a lot of difference in the stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fremen Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 160-200 orders per turn?.In the 14 plus years I have played the game Ive never needed more then 2 turn sheets. I think some stream lining is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 here is what i just did on my hw with ice -4 it just is 7.5 million a turn The turn before Rare Elements Mine: 17,915,936,610 Rare Elements(s) were produced in Population Group # 759 This turn i just got Rare Elements Mine: 46,215,018,525 Rare Elements(s) were produced in Population Group # 759 it was with 3 leader hits also This is going to be the first time i ever did 240 orders since i been playing the game . I been playing 5+ years now .If you doing that ever turn then there is some major problems. I think i would have one of the old hand look at your turn to figured out what wrong . If you trust any of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobknob Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 In my view advanced stripmines are a waste. With that much production pluc ice you should have a colony for any resource you don't have on the hw. You also can't recycle tgd Adv HM once you are done with it. ICE is nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fremen Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yes it is. It’s what allowed the kind of resource extraction needed to build those monster warships massing in the 10’s of billions of tons in Andromeda. If a ships of those tonnages ever get built in Draco it would be an effort worth legendary status to the builder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxer Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 On 14/01/2018 at 1:22 AM, The Fremen said: 160-200 orders per turn?.In the 14 plus years I have played the game Ive never needed more then 2 turn sheets. I think some stream lining is in order. Yes, as my number of colonies is expanding, I'll have to streamline how I run them. Up to now, I have been running half a dozen small colonies, each increasing pop by only a few each turn, until the next colony ship arrives. I've been micromanaging their economies, changing production even if I only added 10 Improved ICs. Now I have my new generation of colony ships coming online, this approach won't do, too many orders :-) Cheers Gixxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isemann2 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Being brand new to the game. ???? What are the requirements for these Deep Core Surveyors in Draco??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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