Damiano Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Sargeant york was part of the Divisional Air Defense System DivADS for short. it was supposed to engage local air threats much like the Soviet Shilka albiet much more expensive and higher tech. It used two 40mm cannon firing proximity fused shells with tungsten pellets etc. etc problem was it was quite useless and in one spectacular failure attacked the fans on a mobile toilet thinking it was a helicopter, One of the main reasons it was cancelled was that the Soviet helicopters it was supposed to attack could actually attack it from outside it's effective range. TSR-2 was a supersonic (actually supercruise) multirole aircraft designed by the british in the 50's that was a generation ahead of anything else. It suffered from the very beginning by being designed by a committee, (they took 3 hours to decide on the placement of a single button in the cockpit and actually got it wrong) It's main competitor was the TFX programme in the US (later to become the F-111) and after much shenanigans was eventually scrapped in favour of the F-111 as it was cheaper (actually came in ten years late at 10 times the original price). Politics reared it's ugly head and in 1965 it was announced by the new government that they were scrapping the project. They used the prototypes for target practice destroyed the plans and photos and even 'lost' the flight records. They even destroyed the construction rigs as soon as the last frames where taken off them. The UK then cancelled it's F-111 order and bought Phantom-II's but with british engines (again for political reasons) which we won't go into. So I think that covers the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanica Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 The C-17 is deployed. Just not any near the numbers they had envisioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 The C-17 is deployed. Just not any near the numbers they had envisioned. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The C-17 is VERY deployed...and the inventory numbers keep going up as the production line is still open and pushing out aircraft. Total buy is currently at 180 aircraft with serious debate about needing 200+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur Lord Tedric Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 TSR-2 was a supersonic (actually supercruise) multirole aircraft designed by the british in the 50's that was a generation ahead of anything else. It suffered from the very beginning by being designed by a committee, (they took 3 hours to decide on the placement of a single button in the cockpit and actually got it wrong) It's main competitor was the TFX programme in the US (later to become the F-111) and after much shenanigans was eventually scrapped in favour of the F-111 as it was cheaper (actually came in ten years late at 10 times the original price). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm, might we not add that the 'competitor' was actually the F-104, we believe, and the TSR2 got canned after much flexing of Lockheed Martin's apparent corporate muscle. The 'Widow Maker' went on to establish quite the reputation...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damiano Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 If I remember Hawkwind did a concept album all about the "Star Fighter" that was either very good or very bad depending on your oulook. The track when their interviewing a prospective pilot is very droll "They don't always crash you know!" That, Ur Lord and Mountbatten destroyed our only export sales to Australia after he had a meeting with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locklyn Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 If we just could get the naval combat primer soon so we actually know such things as fighter and drone options and much much more that has been promised for so long. /Locklyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Uriel Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Speaking up from the galley, I whole heartedly agree with Locklyn. Back to rowing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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