Octus Imperium Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Could the researchable items which benefited from an exploration result (They examine their discovery quite closely, and much is learned concerning have an asterisk near them in the report? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a whole extra worksheet in the master spreadsheet just to track these.... Octus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Could the researchable items which benefited from an exploration result (They examine their discovery quite closely, and much is learned concerning have an asterisk near them in the report? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would assume that the program tracks such things. It might just track researchable items and current level of research completeness, where EXPL and Scientist discoveries just get added to the total. The RTD Order will give you a list of items that you have any level of research completed, including EXPL and Scientist discoveries along with regular Research Center effort. FWIW, -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Could the researchable items which benefited from an exploration result (They examine their discovery quite closely, and much is learned concerning have an asterisk near them in the report? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you use the EMS Galaxy spreadsheet that Phasedragon developed, one of the wortksheets actually tracks all finds including research bonuses found through EXPLs. This was one of the sheets I could actually get to work although everytime I run into another empire I have to edit the text file to get it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looker Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 It would be swell if the unsurveyed list just listed unsurveyed warps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 It would be swell if the unsurveyed list just listed unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought they did. At least mine seems to only list unsurveyed warps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur Lord Tedric Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 It would be swell if the unsurveyed list just listed unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought they did. At least mine seems to only list unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does. The problem occurs if you SURV before you SS. As soon as you enter a system, then do the SS order. Then do the SURVs afterwards and the list of unsurveyed WPs gets smaller...... AFIAK... Chief Planner to Ur-Lord Tedric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughestrog Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 It would be swell if the unsurveyed list just listed unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought they did. At least mine seems to only list unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does. The problem occurs if you SURV before you SS. As soon as you enter a system, then do the SS order. Then do the SURVs afterwards and the list of unsurveyed WPs gets smaller...... AFIAK... Chief Planner to Ur-Lord Tedric <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Ur-Lord is, troublingly again, correct. This is what I've found also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 It would be swell if the unsurveyed list just listed unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought they did. At least mine seems to only list unsurveyed warps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does. The problem occurs if you SURV before you SS. As soon as you enter a system, then do the SS order. Then do the SURVs afterwards and the list of unsurveyed WPs gets smaller...... AFIAK... Chief Planner to Ur-Lord Tedric <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I as well have found this but I did not want to jump to a conclusion without finding out what exactly Looker was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looker Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 It seems that if there are 20 warpoints listed, 10 of them are are listed in the Warp points surveyed list with all information included. It goes one step further when I do a move order in one of those systems it lists the unsurveyed points then repeats the surveyed systems with their destination so I get something like : rtg system Warp Point # 100000 100001 [c] 100002 [d] 100003 [a] 100000 Pete 100001 [c] Russ 100002 [d] Hobknob) {obvious fake name} I do not remember doing surv before ss, but it is possible. Not a ballbreaker more like an itchy mosquito bite.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 It seems that if there are 20 warpoints listed, 10 of them are are listed in the Warp points surveyed list with all information included. It goes one step further when I do a move order in one of those systems it lists the unsurveyed points then repeats the surveyed systems with their destination so I get something like : rtg system Warp Point # 100000 100001 [c] 100002 [d] 100003 [a] 100000 Pete 100001 [c] Russ 100002 [d] Hobknob) {obvious fake name} I do not remember doing surv before ss, but it is possible. Not a ballbreaker more like an itchy mosquito bite.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am not sure that this is due to doing SURV before SS. Uually when you do the SURV before the SS you end up with one WP in a system that shows as unsurveyed and surveyed. However, if I understand your example, you have multple WPs in a system unsurveyed. I have not come across this so I cannot offer any suggestion as to how to correct. I would still always do a SS before I did a SURV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughestrog Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 It seems that if there are 20 warpoints listed, 10 of them are are listed in the Warp points surveyed list with all information included. It goes one step further when I do a move order in one of those systems it lists the unsurveyed points then repeats the surveyed systems with their destination so I get something like : rtg system Warp Point # 100000 100001 [c] 100002 [d] 100003 [a] 100000 Pete 100001 [c] Russ 100002 [d] Hobknob) {obvious fake name} I do not remember doing surv before ss, but it is possible. Not a ballbreaker more like an itchy mosquito bite.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've had no problems if I SS THEN Surv. Well, not yet anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cestvel Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 It seems that if there are 20 warpoints listed, 10 of them are are listed in the Warp points surveyed list with all information included. It goes one step further when I do a move order in one of those systems it lists the unsurveyed points then repeats the surveyed systems with their destination so I get something like : rtg system Warp Point # 100000 100001 [c] 100002 [d] 100003 [a] 100000 Pete 100001 [c] Russ 100002 [d] Hobknob) {obvious fake name} I do not remember doing surv before ss, but it is possible. Not a ballbreaker more like an itchy mosquito bite.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've had no problems if I SS THEN Surv. Well, not yet anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem occurs when you do in one turn a SURV WARP SS SURV and end up in a system you already had explored. All you surveyed WPs in that system now are also listed as unsurveyed. Cestvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 The problem occurs when you do in one turn a SURV WARP SS SURV and end upin a system you already had explored. All you surveyed WPs in that system now are also listed as unsurveyed. Cestvel <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like a logic bug that Pete should be able to fix without too much work. Has anyone talked to Pete recently about game system improvement plans? I've not perceived that much if any progress has been made in the last few months. Kind of depressing actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looker Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 It seems that if there are 20 warpoints listed, 10 of them are are listed in the Warp points surveyed list with all information included. It goes one step further when I do a move order in one of those systems it lists the unsurveyed points then repeats the surveyed systems with their destination so I get something like : rtg system Warp Point # 100000 100001 [c] 100002 [d] 100003 [a] 100000 Pete 100001 [c] Russ 100002 [d] Hobknob) {obvious fake name} I do not remember doing surv before ss, but it is possible. Not a ballbreaker more like an itchy mosquito bite.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've had no problems if I SS THEN Surv. Well, not yet anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem occurs when you do in one turn a SURV WARP SS SURV and end up in a system you already had explored. All you surveyed WPs in that system now are also listed as unsurveyed. Cestvel <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This response makes a lot of sense, since I have made that sequence of moves several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobknob Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 I have loads of SP's that show up as unsurveyed whn in fact they are. This has caused a bit of wasted orders when I rely on the listing to plan a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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