ali-t-akua Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Well, look at it this way: If a Type E SFG has been added to the game, and you haven't found it yet. you could threaten to punish some of them by sending them to very cold, unhospitable worlds without their beloved Mk IV Hot Cocoa makers If a Type E SFG has not been added to the game, and not surprisingly you haven't found it yet, punishing your existing scientists will only make them irritable, naturally causing them to immediately shift all work to Razor Wire development I don't think Locklyn has to worry about Razor Wire development. His scientists just have to send a few of their latest engineered Gremloids to visit. Those retractable spikes don't sound like much fun if you are on the receiving end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looker Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Well, look at it this way: If you put a single 25,000 ton SFG on a 250,000 ton ship, you achieve 1 / (1 + (120,000 / 250,000) ) = roughly 33% damage mitigation against many weapon types. If you put 3,000 tons of a top-level specific defense on a 250,000 ton ship, you achieve the same result but against only one weapon type. If you want to cover as many areas with specific defenses as the SFG currently does at the Type D level, you'd be using up more tonnage than the SFG itself - making the SFG more cost effective. If you only want to cover one area, or a few areas, or even half a dozen areas, you're better off using specific defenses. Covering as many areas as the SFG is more costly in tonnage (with specifics) than the SFG. Additionally, you would have had to research a whole lot of specific defenses to even be able to cover that many areas, whcih adds up to a whopping lot of research along many different lines. If there were a Type E SFG in the game that put out, say, 250,000 defensive output in many areas, the following would result: A single 25,000 ton theoretical Type E SFG on a 250,000 ton ship would achieve 1 / (1 + (250,000/250,000) ) = 50% damage mitigation against many weapon types. If you put 6.250 tons of a specific defense on the same ship, you would achieve 50% mitigation against a single weapon type. This would mean that for the Type E SFG, you could only cover 4 areas with specifics for the same tonnage and mitigation. As soon as you wanted to cover a fifth area, you'd be better off using the Type E SFG. If you're looking for 80% mitigation against many weapon types, you can achieve that with TYpe D's....but it would take almost the entire ship to do so. However, it would take more than the entire ship's tonnage to do so right now with specifics, because there are so many areas to cover. Maybe some of your researchers down in Hyperspace Tunneling (3rd door on the left, sub-level R) can figure out a way to give a ship more tonnage than it actually has......hmmmm..... If a Type E SFG has been added to the game, and you haven't found it yet. you could threaten to punish some of them by sending them to very cold, unhospitable worlds without their beloved Mk IV Hot Cocoa makers If a Type E SFG has not been added to the game, and not surprisingly you haven't found it yet, punishing your existing scientists will only make them irritable, naturally causing them to immediately shift all work to Razor Wire development Blessed defender of the Galaxies, does that "very cold, unhospitable worlds" thing work for rock ballers who love surfing the semi-liquid hydrogen shores in thongs and consider 58 degrees a little sweat prevoking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfouasnon Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Razor wire technology might be a prerequisite for some interesting advances....you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breoghan Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 The only thing I can see as an upgrade to that is Electric Fence, then no further mention. It either stops there or no-one involved in putting together the technology tree that I use has bothered to go any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I'm pretty sure the Ground Combat improvement branch of Razor Wire -> Electric Fence, ends with Electric Fence. However, I have not really pursued the more "esoteric" branches of Ground Combat improvements. I still dream of seeing "Tckon Veritech Fighter" appear on my Research List, though. -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakarissa Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I've also noticed that the Camouflage tree is pretty stunted. At least so far. I thought that getting the cloaking device would open up that tree a little more. Imagine your special forces units running around with Predator-type camouflage? That would be pretty cool.... Sakarissa The Circle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I've also noticed that the Camouflage tree is pretty stunted. At least so far. I thought that getting the cloaking device would open up that tree a little more. Imagine your special forces units running around with Predator-type camouflage? That would be pretty cool.... Sakarissa The Circle Indeed, it would. -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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