Sha'thar of the Gosht Kohr Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 The Gosht Khor decided early on to disassemble their land bastion and put the thing in orbit. Now, as technology advances, they are confronted with updating it. That's a lot of tonnage to scrap and rebuild. Sha'thar wonders if there are any other strategies for updating large orbiting bases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 If it never leaves your home orbit, why dismantle it? If everything on board is obsolete, what are you going to do with a bunch of obsolete components? In orbit it can always draw fire and add a little something in the mix. Additionally, certain components operate on a Fleet level (i.e. Bridge Systems), so building an Orbital with better Sensors and Fire Control in addition to your 'old' Orbitals with extend the life cycle of the 'old' Orbital. That being said, once we have technology that allows you to break components down back into their constituent components (i.e. Iron, Gaseous Elements, etc.), if such technology even exists in SN:ROTE, then I'd start scrapping the 'older' Orbitals for raw materials. Otherwise, I'd just leave them out there. -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfe99 Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 That being said, once we have technology that allows you to break components down back into their constituent components (i.e. Iron, Gaseous Elements, etc.), if such technology even exists in SN:ROTE, then I'd start scrapping the 'older' Orbitals for raw materials. Otherwise, I'd just leave them out there. -SK Do we have any reason to believe that such tech exists in this game? Did it exist in earlier version of SN? Such a thing would be extremely powerful, eliminating component obsolescence altogether... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelnett_of_Kraan Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Unless, of course, it were horridly inefficient, so that it's something you'd only WANT to use in extreme cases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTEC Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 As mass to thrust ratios are not a problem and we can't scrap for raw materials why not integrate the old parts with an updated design? At the very worst the old elements add bulk (hit points) and when hit reduces the chance of more important and modern components being hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Instead of spending the Shipyard space re-integrating 'old' tech, I'd rather leave the orbital as is, because it will draw disproportionate fire due to its lesser mobility and inferior defenses. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha'thar of the Gosht Kohr Posted December 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Sha'thar wonders that, since you don't have to worry about thrust or mass, couldn't you create modular units (engineless 'ships' created with a NUD order), and then simply build it into the fleet containing the bastion? She's already done this as a method to increase fuel tankage to increase SUPP capabilities. You could create, for instance, an updated electronics module, assign it a non-combat rating so it sits behind the big bastion in combat situations, and then add it to the bastion's fleet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugal Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 In may discussions with a friend of mine with more experience with Supernova, it was believed that the only resourse we won't be able to recycle is fuel. But I look forward to discovering the tech that alows us to recycle our ship components.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEernest Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 The Gosht Khor decided early on to disassemble their land bastion and put the thing in orbit. Now, as technology advances, they are confronted with updating it. That's a lot of tonnage to scrap and rebuild. Sha'thar wonders if there are any other strategies for updating large orbiting bases? Why would you want to update anything, I wont last long one I find you anyway. Putting it in orbit probably wasn't too good of an idea either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartinB Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Sha'thar wonders that, since you don't have to worry about thrust or mass, couldn't you create modular units (engineless 'ships' created with a NUD order), and then simply build it into the fleet containing the bastion? She's already done this as a method to increase fuel tankage to increase SUPP capabilities. You could create, for instance, an updated electronics module, assign it a non-combat rating so it sits behind the big bastion in combat situations, and then add it to the bastion's fleet? yes that works. Integrate additional items. Specifies it in the BRIDGE item desciptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha'thar of the Gosht Kohr Posted December 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Why would you want to update anything, I wont last long one I find you anyway. Sha'thar blinks at the wording of the message. It confuses the cat. She thought the shrike were a race a dark-feathered birds, not lemmings? Sha'thar thinks. o O { No... you shant last long once you find me. } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartinB Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 I push new orbitals up with more command and control on a regular basis. I also have a tug that has a convoy route out to the warp points. Has some RN from the orbital build fleet... Most of the time it runs empty but I don't need it for anything else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelnett_of_Kraan Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 ALL our ships are tugs of one strength or another. If you saw all the (unarmed) orbitals in our home system, you'd know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEernest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Why would you want to update anything, I wont last long one I find you anyway. Sha'thar blinks at the wording of the message. It confuses the cat. She thought the shrike were a race a dark-feathered birds, not lemmings? Sha'thar thinks. o O { No... you shant last long once you find me. } Sorry that "I" was a typo, it was supposed to be "it". It is really hard to type with feathers. By the way Sha'thar, Test results just came back and your race would be perfect as test subjects for owr new tech's, wepons or otherwise. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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