El Capitan Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I didn't have any alien fleet sightings on any of my turns. Might not be too unusual except that I've always had some sightings that happen in a convoy route with some ships from a dropped empire. These sightings have been there for many, many turns and now nothing. Anyone else have a similar problem this cycle??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughestrog Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 No, but perhaps something nasty has happened to the freighter ships? Any other empires in your neighbourhood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Capitan Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 No, but perhaps something nasty has happened to the freighter ships? Any other empires in your neighbourhood? Some allies. But there were no sightings with them either in places that sightings should have occured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagritz Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 No, but perhaps something nasty has happened to the freighter ships? Any other empires in your neighbourhood? Some allies. But there were no sightings with them either in places that sightings should have occured. I was missing Alien sightings also. Usually I get loads as my empires bump into each other. If this is a fix to remove Fleet sightings for Total Alliances then that is great (really cut down number of pages down) however if this means potentially all Alien Sightings have not been registered then that is not as good! Alien fleets may be orbiting our homeworlds as we speak and we cant see them! Although they cant see us either.... the ultimate defence! :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Capitan Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I was missing Alien sightings also. Usually I get loads as my empires bump into each other. If this is a fix to remove Fleet sightings for Total Alliances then that is great (really cut down number of pages down) however if this means potentially all Alien Sightings have not been registered then that is not as good! Alien fleets may be orbiting our homeworlds as we speak and we cant see them! Although they cant see us either.... the ultimate defence! :} Anyone else missing fleet sightings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I did not have any either. Pete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Xaar Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 For one of my empires I may have thought it merely unusual to not see other fleets, but for another it is impossible unless something major has changed or something was broken this turn. If something has been changed about alien fleet detection we need to be informed in advance. This would have big implications for defense, etc. -LX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Capitan Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 O.K., this now looks like it's a game-wide situation, not just a localized event. Pete, this looks significant. This may have had a major impact on attack plans, defenses, battles, etc. I know it's not something to jump into lightly, but we may be looking at having to rerun this cycle. I know a lot of players have been complaning about late turns but I'd rather have them accurate and "late", than get them on time with errors. If this is a case of a rule change concerning sightings (no more sightings of Allies or something similar) we need to know ASAP. And if so, did this change go into effect as expected or were all sightings missed, even with declared enemies. Any insight into this issue or a possible solution if it is a glitch??? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord SaHeru Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 None of my normal sighting where there even on a SENS order, but I did have a few tht then triggered combat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurassier Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 There is no such thing as aliens. There is no such thing as aliens. We are not orbiting your HW, we are not using your WGs. There is no such thing as aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmodus Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 O.K., this now looks like it's a game-wide situation, not just a localized event. Pete, this looks significant. This may have had a major impact on attack plans, defenses, battles, etc. I know it's not something to jump into lightly, but we may be looking at having to rerun this cycle. I know a lot of players have been complaning about late turns but I'd rather have them accurate and "late", than get them on time with errors. If this is a case of a rule change concerning sightings (no more sightings of Allies or something similar) we need to know ASAP. And if so, did this change go into effect as expected or were all sightings missed, even with declared enemies. Any insight into this issue or a possible solution if it is a glitch??? Thanks in advance. I agree with El Capitan - this is either a significant programming change that we should have been made aware of prior to it being executed or its a "glitch" that probably needs a rerun of this turn. Its important not to just see movement of declared enemies, but of unknown empires as well as allied empires. Pete / Russ - Please let us know what is going on ASAP - can't plan next turn until we have a resolution. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cestvel Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I had a few sightings of allies, but I am pretty sure, that that were not all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGPete Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Sighting of enemy units during convoy routes is definitely something that can happen, and can trigger battles just like in regular fleet movements. If for whatever reason some possible sightings didn't occur as expected this cycle, they didn't happen and without a sighting there definitely won't be a combat. I'll look into it for next time and will put some stop statements in the code for locations I know are hotspots to keep a close eye on convoy route execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locklyn Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 No Alien Fleet Sightings of enemy, unknown or allied fleets were detected at all this turn outside my HW system so this is a major bug. I have XSENS fleets on all WPs and GGs up to 4-5 systems out from my HW and none registered during the turn proper as they should have and it is not just with convoys as you seem to believe from your post Pete, it is the turn proper and movement with fleets inside the turn proper. /Locklyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmodus Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 No Alien Fleet Sightings of enemy, unknown or allied fleets were detected at all this turn outside my HW system so this is a major bug. I have XSENS fleets on all WPs and GGs up to 4-5 systems out from my HW and none registered during the turn proper as they should have and it is not just with convoys as you seem to believe from your post Pete, it is the turn proper and movement with fleets inside the turn proper. /Locklyn Pete - I believe Locklyn to be correct. Over the last 10 turns, I've averaged just under 100 sightings per turn - roughly 20% of those are not in the convoy routes. This turn - one (1) sighting; from my limited data, it looks like the only sightings reported are those that triggered a Naval Battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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