octagon999 Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Would it be possible to change the Pop Group check on CSVs so that you could use any existing pop group when you make your check? The reason being, you don't want to put a colony down on the world and build things and THEN see what the CSV is, what you want is to say, IF I put a colony on this world with the same facilities as Colony A, what could we expect for attrition. Just a thought. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locklyn Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Splendid Idea! Sort of a Attrional Survey! /Locklyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozboym Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I agree. In fact I originally though that _was_ the way it worked (not having closely read the one rule example that explained it didn't). It was only this turn that I discovered my mistake by wasting nearly a dozen CSV orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 While it would increase the size of my turn results a bit. I'd really like to see a Colony Report that just spit out a CSV every turn for any Pop Group that had a Population, thus eliminating 'empty' Pop Groups that are just Imperial Flags or Trade Drop-Off points. That way you would see what effects, if any, new structures such as Domed Cities or "DUCKs" had on your Pop Group. It would also show you if you were over-industrializing (is that a word?) your homeworld and thereby increasing the detrimental effects of pollution there. It would basically be an XCSV Order that is executed by your Pop Groups. YMMV, -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagon999 Posted March 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 Wow! I love the idea of an empire-wide CSV order for existing colonies. Basically a management report asking your governors for thier projected attrition. This would be an awesome order. This would be in ADDITION to allowing any pop group to form the basis for a CSV on an uncolonized world. I could see another order, done per world, requiring a management report. It could do for a colony what an FOB or TAC does elsewhere. It gives you specific (or general) expectations for various occurences. For example: MGMT Ceti Alpha 6 The governor of Ceti Alpha 6 reports the following progress on his colony. Attrition: Very Low Immigration Potential: Fair Science Potential: Very High Morale: Excellent Internal Security: Poor Whatever, you get the idea. The example listed would judge not just attrition, but also how successful your management has been in making the world attractive to immigrants (over and above forced bussing), how the world rates in giving scientists a chance for a research breakthrough (also takes into account factors unique to the world and system), how happy the population is in general, perhaps how resistant/protected the world is in relation to subversion or even enemy agent actions. Stuff like that. Pete, you know the actual system, so you could figure out the actual order and results. What do YOU think? Tom Chief Cook and Bottlewasher Rathe Federation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locklyn Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 I second Octagons exclamation of "WOW" That was a brilliant idea Shadow! Kudos! /Locklyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGPete Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 It's a good idea - I could simply eliminate the colocation check for popgroup vs fleet. This would let you use a "template" colony somewhere for attrition calculation purposes elsewhere. However, the pop group # (if specified and passing the colocation check) is used for other purposes right now in the attrition procedure--would need to make some changes to ensure that the correct homeworld is being used in certain cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobknob Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 If you are going to be fiddling with the CSV orders is there any chance of getting another catagory? I am looking for the utopia category which would be zero attrition. I find it very annoying that you can have ideal conditions and still have attrition. So another listing that means zero attrition would be nice. It don't care if I never find a utopia world I just don't want to be setting up colonies at every ideal world just to find out that attrition still happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKO Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hello Hobknob, We have found planets with ideal conditions and we suffer no attrition. Our population grows. It probably depends on the strength of the species. Kind regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan Elder 'Keen Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Thus the age-old taunt.... "My colonists are more virile than yours!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandaemonium Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Has there been any progress on the use of a "template colony" in the CSV order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartinB Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 and who is the virelest of all (or would it be vilest) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelnett_of_Kraan Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 'Ideal' with attrition? That must sting. Our colony is a 'Very Low' and we have no attrition on it.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagon999 Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 It's a good idea - I could simply eliminate the colocation check for popgroup vs fleet. This would let you use a "template" colony somewhere for attrition calculation purposes elsewhere. However, the pop group # (if specified and passing the colocation check) is used for other purposes right now in the attrition procedure--would need to make some changes to ensure that the correct homeworld is being used in certain cases. Agreed, good subject for a bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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