Lord Uriel Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Greetings Gentlebeings, I am experiencing a moment of brain freeze and I can't recall, nor find what is the proper order to use in unloading troops from a ship to a pop group. Is it simply OC? Confused, Lord Uriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGPete Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Greetings Gentlebeings,I am experiencing a moment of brain freeze and I can't recall, nor find what is the proper order to use in unloading troops from a ship to a pop group. Is it simply OC? Confused, Lord Uriel Correct - Offload Cargo into a pop group, create an empty army at that pop group, then DIV the troops into the army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Uriel Posted November 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Pete, Does this mean that I should not load troops onto transports as an army? If I understand correctly, I should load troops from the pop group as cargo, NM, WARP to the location, OC troops as cargo, NEWA, and then DIV? Here's question that comes to mind. I'm attacking a planet with the intent of landing troops. I remove all opposition fleets and put down a colony beacon. I OC troops into the pop group and the next orders are NEW, DIV and GATK. But orders are done in a random sequence, so the defender takes a chance and does ten GATK orders throughout his orders, and goes before my NEWA, DIV and GATK can take place. Do my troops who are not in an army have the chance to defend themselves? If not, are they now captured as items in the pop group by the defender? Still confused, Lord Uriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGPete Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Pete,Does this mean that I should not load troops onto transports as an army? If I understand correctly, I should load troops from the pop group as cargo, NM, WARP to the location, OC troops as cargo, NEWA, and then DIV? Here's question that comes to mind. I'm attacking a planet with the intent of landing troops. I remove all opposition fleets and put down a colony beacon. I OC troops into the pop group and the next orders are NEW, DIV and GATK. But orders are done in a random sequence, so the defender takes a chance and does ten GATK orders throughout his orders, and goes before my NEWA, DIV and GATK can take place. Do my troops who are not in an army have the chance to defend themselves? If not, are they now captured as items in the pop group by the defender? Still confused, Lord Uriel Troops loaded onto a fleet from an army end up as cargo anyway on the fleet, so loading them directly from a pop group is fine. On the invading world, your troops will defend themselves in their pop group, so mass GATK's from the defender are pointless. A rare instance of GM need would be a defender submitting mass GATK's to try and clear your empty pop group before you land troops; in that case I can intervene to make sure your troops get down. That would just be a mechanics exploit, pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palladium Regency Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I was moving some troops around on the current turn and couldn't exactly figure out how to move troops in an army back to a pop group. Can someone point me to the order for doing this? It wasn't critically important this turn, but it could be later. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaseDragon Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 LC the troops again and OC them back to the pop group. That's the only way I know. There is no specific order to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur Lord Tedric Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 LC the troops again and OC them back to the pop group. That's the only way I know. There is no specific order to do it. Teeny error Once in the Army you have to EAF the army#..... Chief Planner to Ur-Lord Tedric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palladium Regency Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Once in the Army you have to EAF the army#..... What if I only want specific divisions out a army? Like say after conquering a world, I wan to leave an occupying force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sssarass Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Once you have won the battle. Create a new army and either transssfer what you want to move or leave into the new army and do an EAF with which ever army you want to pick up. (cossstsss 1 AP to do an EAF versssusss a LC cossstsss no AP) Note you can EAF an army that attacksss in the sssame turn asss long asss no resssissstance isss met. -CTO Sssarasss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagon999 Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Since EAF costs 1 AP and LC costs 0 points, doing the same thing, wouldn't it make sense to eliminate the 1AP cost for the EAF? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Troops loaded onto a fleet from an army end up as cargo anyway on the fleet I assume that they require troop berths, not cargo holds in order to move them. It that assumption correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGPete Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Troops loaded onto a fleet from an army end up as cargo anyway on the fleet I assume that they require troop berths, not cargo holds in order to move them. It that assumption correct? Correct, Troop Berthings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Uriel Posted November 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Just a question about the process. Why isn't there a DAF order that works? Doing it this way involves two extra orders. It may be a code issue which are beyond the abilities of a poor infantryman. Lord Uriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Miles Avatar Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 That a good question as there is a DAF order described in the rulebook but its no where to be found in the orders supplement. I like to see an order to insert troops from orbit. perhpas as ground unit tech advances troops will be able to 'jump' from orbit? now that would be kewl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagon999 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 It was done that way to slow down ground invasion. Makes you take one extra turn before the Big Red One makes its debut on the beaches of Omaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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