cestvel Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Athmosphere is the hardest problem, but why these similiar PMAP come to a moderate vs. high rating eludes me. The second is worse because proportionally speaking, the atmosphere is worse. If you scaled the 9 ocean and 9 lifeform up to the 10 of the first report, you would also have to scale their 49 atmosphere up to 53. The worseness of their situation then becomes obvious. That is the reason I aseked, because up until now I did not now, that a Vacuum can me worse than another Vacuum !? These are all Asteroids (Atmosphere: Vaccuum), but they differ in Attrition rating. I have though of the possibiliy that I have gotten some base colony tech like subterran building (which I have), but new CSVed Asteroids pop up with high as well. Cestvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenLorek Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 As far as I can tell, Asteroids are Asteroids are Asteroids. They all have no atmosphere, no ocean, minimal gravity. The only differences could be in Temperature, micro-organisms, radiation, and pollution. I notice that most of your Asteriods' PMAPs state: "Microorganisms on this world are virtually nonexistent" ... but one of them states: "Microorganisms on this world are relatively harmless". Could the word "relatively" make a difference? Also, until recently, the SNROTE software took into account Axial Tilt when calculating attrition for CSVs on Asteroids. How old are your CSVs? Apart from the above, I can think of no reason why you should see variations in attrition -- perhaps you should ask Pete to explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cestvel Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 On The original topic: Pete told me, that the CSV shows the attrition AFTER applying caps. So the DUCKS reduced the temperature, but not enough to go under the temperature cap. Maybe something similiar explains the things I see with the Asteroids. The CSV and PMAPs are form turn 44-48 (absoulte, as this is an position which begins at Turn 1). Compare the first (moderate) and the last(high) PMAP/CSV. PMAP looks excatly the same, only that the high attriton on is 1K warmer (less cold for my people). I looked at the orbits, and found, that the moderate one is only one orbit off from my HW, as the others are way off. Perhaps this explains the one mroe dot. Cestvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitsune Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 As far as I can tell, Asteroids are Asteroids are Asteroids. They all have no atmosphere, no ocean, minimal gravity. The only differences could be in Temperature, micro-organisms, radiation, and pollution. I notice that most of your Asteriods' PMAPs state: "Microorganisms on this world are virtually nonexistent" ... but one of them states: "Microorganisms on this world are relatively harmless". Could the word "relatively" make a difference? Also, until recently, the SNROTE software took into account Axial Tilt when calculating attrition for CSVs on Asteroids. How old are your CSVs? Apart from the above, I can think of no reason why you should see variations in attrition -- perhaps you should ask Pete to explain? If you want to think in hierarchical terms, "virtually non-existent" would be Tier 0, while "relatively harmless" would be Tier 1 and so on. -SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserwolf Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Well.... According to the Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Humans are mostly harmless too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelnett_of_Kraan Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Actually, that's the entry for Earth, not humans. He was a really fun author to talk to. Does a GREAT Marvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looker Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 We are coldworlders as well and have found that domed cities drop those 45-atm worlds give no attrition when the lifeform bonuses equal the temp and ocean bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenLorek Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 He was a really fun author to talk to. Does a GREAT Marvin. As in "I've got a pain in all the diodes down my left side"? Or, "Brain the size of a planet, and what do they ask me to do"? Or, "The first 10 million years were the worst. The next 10 million years were the worst, too. After that, things just went downhill"? My particular favorite was the automatic doors, made by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation ("It is their pleasure to open and close for you with the knowledge of a job well done!"), and their sighs of ecstasy as they opened and closed. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ur Lord Tedric Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 I must admit that my absolute favourite has to be the 'conversation' Marvin has with the Frogstar C Battle Robot....... It's not one I can post easily and doesn't have quite the same impact when written, but the radio original was utterly superb...... Mx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelnett_of_Kraan Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 That's the one he read to us. Frankly amazing. Of course, he wrote it, so he knew exactly where all the emphases were supposed to be, but it was still impressive to hear an author who could also perform well. "Not an electronic sausage." Should we maybe get this thread back onto "rules" though..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandaemonium Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 You're right Krelnett. OK: Hitch-Hiker's Guide RULES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-t-akua Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 DON'T PANIC I think that is the appropriate Hitchiker's Guide Rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternusIV Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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