DezertCamel Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Both Turkey and I have no illusions about our relatively weak ARM and AIR kills, both in this game and compared to past games. The fact that our adversaries in the Mid-East dropped relatively early and that Greece and his TA's dropped out before we really had a chance to get into a serious fight with them definitely limited out damage output. Such is the way of such games I guess. Hopefully our success, relative to the other nations/groups, in other areas of the game will help to put us over the top. It probably won't be anything to write home about, but hopefully we'll get the win. (I could REALLY use the free game.) With weak Mandatory Victory Point numbers, your final tally may not be as good as the Northern Alliance's. They fought some hard wars. Our group seems to think they don't have a chance, but I tried to convince them that anything was possible........my original guess was that it would be the following: 1: Sweden/NR/Baltic 2: Persia/Turkey 3: The Islands Alliance (Iceland/GB/Ireland/USA) But, if you did not shed your inactive TA's before the endgame, I think that our Island Alliance could move pass you final points due to the inactive TA's holding your average down. Hopefully Russ has a final tally for us soon. I have been eager to see how it turned out. I do believe I am CANADA not the US.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Both Turkey and I have no illusions about our relatively weak ARM and AIR kills, both in this game and compared to past games. The fact that our adversaries in the Mid-East dropped relatively early and that Greece and his TA's dropped out before we really had a chance to get into a serious fight with them definitely limited out damage output. Such is the way of such games I guess. Hopefully our success, relative to the other nations/groups, in other areas of the game will help to put us over the top. It probably won't be anything to write home about, but hopefully we'll get the win. (I could REALLY use the free game.) With weak Mandatory Victory Point numbers, your final tally may not be as good as the Northern Alliance's. They fought some hard wars. Our group seems to think they don't have a chance, but I tried to convince them that anything was possible........my original guess was that it would be the following: 1: Sweden/NR/Baltic 2: Persia/Turkey 3: The Islands Alliance (Iceland/GB/Ireland/USA) But, if you did not shed your inactive TA's before the endgame, I think that our Island Alliance could move pass you final points due to the inactive TA's holding your average down. Hopefully Russ has a final tally for us soon. I have been eager to see how it turned out. It will definitely be interesting and dicey. As far as I know, each group is only TA'd with those within their own group. My only question on that topic is whether the northern group all kept C.R. as a TA until the end. With that said, much will come down to how much the weaker members of each group may pull down their groups average score. I am beyond clueless as to the specific achievements of some of the nations, especially the 'Island nations' in many of the categories Although I know Turkey and Persia's points gained in the Bonus Victory Conditions should help us more than the other groups and we should probably rank better in most if not all of our Optional Victory Conditions, but that may be small consolation if we can't be competitive in the Mandatory Victory Conditions. It also still seems to be up in the air, who actually ran last, or at least after us and whoever did, did they declare war on us and attack us successfully further reducing our morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 It also still seems to be up in the air, who actually ran last, or at least after us and whoever did, did they declare war on us and attack us successfully further reducing our morale. I am not sure who ran last....however, I know that I had only two wars left for Ireland ~ Persia & Turkey. I was able to force peace on every other nation with which I was at war. I was not able to do any significant damage to either nation, other than the loss of morale, which was by design obvioulsy. My national morale was not @ 999 before the last turn, so to me, the potential loss of another 100 points was nothing in the final scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicer Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well, I can start this off by showing my header information: STATE OF THE NATION National Morale Treasury Army NTS Naval NTS Air NTS 997 196749 3 1 4 Intel Sharing Scuttle Espionage Counter-Esp. Last Turn Processed ON 10% 0 10 16 days ago ---------------------------Treasury Expenditures---------------------------- Beginning Production Training Maintenance Intelligence Total 182759 19250 309 6126 1067 26752 ---------------Treasury Income--------------- Home-Taxation Occupied-Taxation Total 11890 28852 40742 -------------------Effective Damage Inflicted Upon Enemies------------------ Naval Losses Aircraft Destroyed Ground Casualties 1852 49405 120449 ---------National Victory Conditions--------- Average National Morale Average Revenue 656 45607 Total Alliances: Baltic States Central Russia Sweden Alliances: Algeria Morocco Southern Russia Spain Tunisia United States Non-Aggression Pacts: Finland France Iceland Ireland Norway Poland Portugal Rumania Current Wars: Czechoslovakia Germany Hungary Persia Turkey Final AIR FORCE SIZE: ~114,300 AIR (including x86 TB-3s! and x206 Tu-2s!) Final ARMY SIZE: ~49,200 ARM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezertCamel Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 STATE OF THE NATION National Morale Treasury Army NTS Naval NTS Air NTS Intel Sharing Scuttle Espionage Counter-Esp. Last Turn Processed 999 20798 2 3 3 ON 10% 0 0 15 days ago ---------------------------Treasury Expenditures---------------------------- ---------------Treasury Income--------------- Beginning Production Training Maintenance Intelligence Total Home-Taxation Occupied-Taxation Total 32132 29390 950 5397 0 35737 7875 16528 24403 -------------------Effective Damage Inflicted Upon Enemies------------------ ---------National Victory Conditions--------- Naval Losses Aircraft Destroyed Ground Casualties Average National Morale Average Revenue 3082 19218 21551 460 11182 Total Alliances: Great Britain Iceland Ireland Alliances: Sweden Non-Aggression Pacts: Czechoslovakia Finland Lowlands Current Wars: Denmark Morocco Portugal Spain Switzerland United States final military strength, give or take 5% Army 34,320 Air 84,952 Navy 57,192 ______________________________________________ would still prefer actual turns not just stats, usually in the past the survivors traded with no major issues. let me know DezertCamel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 PERSIA ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ STATE OF THE NATION National Morale Treasury Army NTS Naval NTS Air NTS Intel Sharing Scuttle Espionage Counter-Esp. Last Turn Processed 996 380153 4 1 3 ON 10% 10 10 22 days ago ---------------------------Treasury Expenditures---------------------------- ---------------Treasury Income--------------- Beginning Production Training Maintenance Intelligence Total Home-Taxation Occupied-Taxation Total 424840 82951 836 11211 2933 97931 12902 40342 53244 -------------------Effective Damage Inflicted Upon Enemies------------------ ---------National Victory Conditions--------- Naval Losses Aircraft Destroyed Ground Casualties Average National Morale Average Revenue 1936 42667 96460 731 113270 Total Alliances: Turkey Alliances: Finland Great Britain Non-Aggression Pacts: Algeria Austria Czechoslovakia Denmark Egypt France Germany Hungary Italy Lowlands Norway Poland Portugal Rumania Saudi Arabia Southern Russia Spain Switzerland Syria Trans-Jordan Tunisia UAE Yugoslavia Current Wars: Baltic States Central Russia Greece Ireland Northern Russia Sweden Political Agreement Proposals (1) Your nation desires a nonaggression pact with Morocco (2) Your nation desires a nonaggression pact with United States Final AIR FORCE SIZE: 130,507 – Current health accounted for. (including 163 TB-3’s. Had to do something with all those AIR points I had.) Final ARMY SIZE: 66,782 ARM – Current health accounted for. Cities/Provinces Owned: 415/408 IMDL Levels: 556 (Didn’t choose this victory condition, but wish I had now.) ADL Levels: 521 Capitals: 7 Other Bonuses: NA _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ I agree with Canada that it would still be ideal if we all shared our actual final turns. The only question is how to go about doing that. Email seems to be the obvious answer. Now all we need is to get everyone's email. I'd really prefer not to post them on the forum and try to reformat the text of each turn that people post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I have Turkeys's OK to post his results as well. TURKEY ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ STATE OF THE NATION National Morale Treasury Army NTS Naval NTS Air NTS Intel Sharing Scuttle Espionage Counter-Esp. Last Turn Processed 999 392400 3 1 4 ON 10% 10 10 15 days ago ---------------------------Treasury Expenditures---------------------------- ---------------Treasury Income--------------- Beginning Production Training Maintenance Intelligence Total Home-Taxation Occupied-Taxation Total 391506 34283 650 8809 2000 45742 6823 39813 46636 -------------------Effective Damage Inflicted Upon Enemies------------------ ---------National Victory Conditions--------- Naval Losses Aircraft Destroyed Ground Casualties Average National Morale Average Revenue 3814 37354 79333 761 83907 Total Alliances: Persia Alliances: Finland Great Britain Italy Rumania Non-Aggression Pacts: Algeria Austria Bulgaria Denmark France Portugal Spain Switzerland Syria Trans-Jordan Current Wars: Baltic States Central Russia Czechoslovakia Hungary Morocco Northern Russia Saudi Arabia Southern Russia Sweden Political Agreement Proposals (1) Your nation desires a nonaggression pact with Poland (2) Your nation desires a nonaggression pact with Lowlands (3) Your nation desires a nonaggression pact with Germany Final AIR FORCE SIZE: 115,352 (including 123 TB-3’s.) Final ARMY SIZE: 104,049 ARM Cities/Provinces Owned: 310/314 IMDL Levels: 636 ADL Levels: 608 Capitals: 10 Other Bonuses: Suez , Istanbul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezertCamel Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 spartan send me a PM, I tried to send one to you but I guess your mail box is full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicer Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 261 Cities IMDL 429 ADL 559 Based on the info above, I am pretty sure that you guys won. Great game though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Tech Period 73 Nation: Ireland Game#85 Account Number: 352 Winter Turn American Units Thursday, January 19, 2012 This game has just ended! Details will be provided in the next newsletter ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ STATE OF THE NATION National Morale Treasury Army NTS Naval NTS Air NTS Intel Sharing Scuttle Espionage Counter-Esp. Last Turn Processed 337 9773 2 3 3 ON 25% 0 0 17 days ago -------------------Effective Damage Inflicted Upon Enemies------------------ ---------National Victory Conditions--------- Naval Losses Aircraft Destroyed Ground Casualties Average National Morale Average Revenue 2248 9241 10649 341 4533 Total Alliances: Canada Great Britain Iceland Alliances: Baltic States Sweden Non-Aggression Pacts: Central Russia Czechoslovakia Denmark Egypt Finland Germany Iraq Lowlands Northern Russia Norway Portugal Rumania Saudi Arabia Southern Russia Spain Switzerland Tunisia UAE United States Current Wars: Persia Turkey IMDL: 130 ADL: 150 RECENT WORLD EVENTS Turkey has conquered xMahdia from Tunisia Canada has conquered xMadrid from Spain Baltic States has conquered xBanja Luka from Hungary Persia has conquered xByala from Hungary Central Russia has declared war on Persia Great Britain has declared war on Yugoslavia Ireland has conquered xLugo from Spain Canada has conquered xCordoba from Spain Canada has conquered xAlmaden from Spain Turkey has conquered xAlgiers from Tunisia Sweden has conquered xSarajevo from Hungary Northern Russia has conquered xBrad from Persia Persia has conquered xDubrovnik from Hungary Great Britain has conquered xMarseilles from Switzerland Great Britain has conquered xTurin from Czechoslovakia Ireland has declared war on Persia Ireland has conquered xGijon from Spain Iceland has declared war on Switzerland Canada has conquered xCasablanca from Morocco Peace has been declared between Baltic States and Germany Peace has been declared between Baltic States and Czechoslovakia Sweden has conquered xTirane from Hungary Sweden has conquered xZurich from Switzerland Northern Russia has conquered xSalonica from Turkey Northern Russia has conquered xBurgas from Turkey Great Britain has conquered xEtienne from Switzerland Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Italy Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Czechoslovakia Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Germany Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Hungary Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Portugal Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Switzerland Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Spain Peace has been declared between Great Britain and Yugoslavia Canada has conquered xGuadalajara from Spain Iceland has conquered xBern from Switzerland Peace has been declared between Baltic States and Hungary Peace has been declared between Persia and Saudi Arabia Peace has been declared between Persia and Southern Russia Peace has been declared between Persia and Yugoslavia Peace has been declared between Persia and Hungary Peace has been declared between Persia and Italy Peace has been declared between Persia and Portugal Turkey has conquered xSbeitla from Tunisia Turkey has conquered xKebir from Libya Turkey has conquered xChambi from Tunisia Turkey has conquered xTebessa from Tunisia Turkey has conquered xAgrinion from Greece Turkey has conquered xElasson from Greece Peace has been declared between Turkey and Greece Peace has been declared between Turkey and Iraq Peace has been declared between Turkey and Libya Peace has been declared between Turkey and Tunisia Peace has been declared between Turkey and UAE Ireland has declared war on Turkey Peace has been declared between Ireland and Portugal Peace has been declared between Ireland and Spain Peace has been declared between Ireland and Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpasopete Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Russ posted the results. Congrats to the Persia-Turkey team. There were 10 players that finished- 25% of those that started. This was my first game. I had a blast. Thanks to Tom, Jeff, and Scott. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Russ posted the results. Congrats to the Persia-Turkey team. There were 10 players that finished- 25% of those that started. This was my first game. I had a blast. Thanks to Tom, Jeff, and Scott. Pete Just saw the results ~ Congrats to the winners and much thanks to my TA's! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spongebob Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 This game would have been rubbish without ME... can you tell i'm booooorrrrrrrred :( I am on a mission to comment on every forum while fueled on drink and drugs.... (Orange Juice and Asprin) Wooooooo what a kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTGRuss Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hi Guys, I've got the main website updated now and the latest Hall of Victory (and Game 85 final map) is available The Game 85 post in the News from the Front forum has the link or you can go directly to our main site. Congratulations to Michael and Ken and best of luck to everyone in the next game! Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageraad Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Gratulations to the winners and Nice map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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