The Age of Screens is NOT dead!

[Vince]

Good Morning, Rick - To quote Gary, I was "stirring the pot" a bit. His excessive irritation was a target too hard to resist, so had to give it the same treatment that he appears to enjoy.

 

That said, I do agree communications on the subject should have been more timely - assuming this thread is accurately portraying events.

[hobknob]

As near as I can tell this is the first turn that anybody was aware that any ships were to be restored on any side. And as Pete noted, they had not shown up on any turns. I fail to see what all the angst is about. All ships have been restored on all sides. The element of surprise is lost and there has been plenty of opportunity for additional defenses to be built as well as additional offensive units. I have not heard of either side suing for peace so I would suspect that there will be another battle eventually. Hopefully we will all be blessed with the battle results that demonstrate that the battle system is working properly, regardless of the outcome of the battle.

 

It is also apparent that you fail to read the board at your own peril as it is in fact the official forum for RTG.

 

[Gary Carpenter]

As near as I can tell this is the first turn that anybody was aware that any ships were to be restored on any side. And as Pete noted, they had not shown up on any turns. I fail to see what all the angst is about. All ships have been restored on all sides. The element of surprise is lost and there has been plenty of opportunity for additional defenses to be built as well as additional offensive units. I have not heard of either side suing for peace so I would suspect that there will be another battle eventually. Hopefully we will all be blessed with the battle results that demonstrate that the battle system is working properly, regardless of the outcome of the battle.

 

It is also apparent that you fail to read the board at your own peril as it is in fact the official forum for RTG.

 

 

 

Wow, so no concern should be shown by RTG for players not on this board, like say the paper turn players? That is harsh.

[Gary Carpenter]

This is what I suggested to Pete.

 

Have office hours, IE 10 am to 2 PM Tuesday and Thursday, I will be near phone, you could even change the hours on the board every week as your schedule changes or on the top of the turn every two weeks as your schedule changes

 

Two, you acknowlege incoming emails as received, like Russ does

 

Three, you decide on where and how you are going to reply to problems like this, and do it that way every time.

Example

I will always reply via email(unless there is no email account)

Then I will mail a letter, call, or whatever you like.

 

 

 

 

I believe these three things would solve 70 to 90 percent of RTG complaints that I have heard.

[Coconutheads]

I think those are reasonable suggestions Gary. After all, in this age of text messages, emails, cell phones, there is really no valid reason for a business to be difficult to get ahold of. I have no clue whether RTG is a part time concern for Russ/Pete or whether it's the primary job, but it seems reasonable to have a few hours every couple days where issues can be addressed.

 

Did you make these suggestions via email or verbally? If verbally, what kind of response did you get?

[hobknob]

As near as I can tell this is the first turn that anybody was aware that any ships were to be restored on any side. And as Pete noted, they had not shown up on any turns. I fail to see what all the angst is about. All ships have been restored on all sides. The element of surprise is lost and there has been plenty of opportunity for additional defenses to be built as well as additional offensive units. I have not heard of either side suing for peace so I would suspect that there will be another battle eventually. Hopefully we will all be blessed with the battle results that demonstrate that the battle system is working properly, regardless of the outcome of the battle.

 

It is also apparent that you fail to read the board at your own peril as it is in fact the official forum for RTG.

 

 

 

Wow, so no concern should be shown by RTG for players not on this board, like say the paper turn players? That is harsh.

 

It isn't my policy, but that does seem to be that way things are. So, lacking the ability to change the policy the best you can do is to look to the board for your answers. It is also nice to have a friend on the boards that can forward along relevant information in a timely fashion if one is unable to get to the board.

 

I just met a group of several people who don't have access to the board at all and only play by snail mail. They know the disadvantages yet they continue to play and have played for some time now.

 

Good luck on turns, may the biggest fleets not always win.

[Locklyn]

As near as I can tell this is the first turn that anybody was aware that any ships were to be restored on any side. And as Pete noted, they had not shown up on any turns. I fail to see what all the angst is about. All ships have been restored on all sides. The element of surprise is lost and there has been plenty of opportunity for additional defenses to be built as well as additional offensive units. I have not heard of either side suing for peace so I would suspect that there will be another battle eventually. Hopefully we will all be blessed with the battle results that demonstrate that the battle system is working properly, regardless of the outcome of the battle.

 

It is also apparent that you fail to read the board at your own peril as it is in fact the official forum for RTG.

 

 

 

Wow, so no concern should be shown by RTG for players not on this board, like say the paper turn players? That is harsh.

 

It isn't my policy, but that does seem to be that way things are. So, lacking the ability to change the policy the best you can do is to look to the board for your answers. It is also nice to have a friend on the boards that can forward along relevant information in a timely fashion if one is unable to get to the board.

 

I just met a group of several people who don't have access to the board at all and only play by snail mail. They know the disadvantages yet they continue to play and have played for some time now.

 

Good luck on turns, may the biggest fleets not always win.

 

 

What do you mean "biggest fleets not always win."??? *worried frown* Here I've been building up the biggest fleets and now you are telling me they not always win! *panicked look*

 

 

/Locklyn

[Gary Carpenter]

I think those are reasonable suggestions Gary. After all, in this age of text messages, emails, cell phones, there is really no valid reason for a business to be difficult to get ahold of. I have no clue whether RTG is a part time concern for Russ/Pete or whether it's the primary job, but it seems reasonable to have a few hours every couple days where issues can be addressed.

 

Did you make these suggestions via email or verbally? If verbally, what kind of response did you get?

 

 

Email

[D.I.E.]

Please do post the battle again when the flag bridges work as they were supposed to, I am curious as I had seen a different outcome from the numbers presented.

 

 

/Locklyn

 

Locklyn,

 

As per your request, here is the latest iteration of the space battle for Semjan 3.

 

In a nut shell, the Flag Bridge worked exactly as advertised this time. The enemy had roughly 21,600 ship, nearly all of them 1,000 ton screens. Their four heavy units were the 102nd, 103rd, 104th, and 105th casualties of the battle.

 

The defenders put up a brave, spirited, and highly admirable defense, sacrificing their bodies and ships in order to give the civilian population time to evacuate the world.

 

We express gratitude to enemy-of-our-enemy, the Bene Gesserit, for their invaluable aid in this effort.

 

Mephisto of the Alpha Circle

Lord of the Implements

 

 

 

 

666th Plague Fleet #666 moves to Semjan-3

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Alien Fleet Sighting : Semjan - 3 [in-system move by empire # 737]

HLD Murean Holdfast # 733 'Double Helix Entwining A Black Hole'

[X-Ray] 45th Swarm

4932 COZ Screen Echo (Assault Corvette - 1,000 tons)

BNG Bene Gesserit # 1622 'Silver Gom Jabbar On Skeletal Finger'

[Tango] Fleet 1096

1 NDN Chains of Servitude (Nova Dreadnaught - 92,355,000 tons)

1 NDNF Suicide Blonde (Flag Nova Dreadnaught - 932,230,000 tons)

MAC MacroHard # 2496 'Rainbow Stripes'

[X-Ray] Scout

3240 AUXL NanoBOT (Light Auxiliary - 1,100 tons)

PHO Phoenix Empire # 3587 'Cat's Paw On A Field Of Orange, Encircled By Stars'

[Romeo] 112th Recon Group

1 NDN Probe 3 (Nova Dreadnaught - 188,060,000 tons)

[Quebec] 2000th EXPL Group

10 CO Lightgrazer (Corvette - 1,500 tons)

[Quebec] Fleet 1001

2997 SOX tach324 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons)

[Whiskey] Homeworld PDC

1 PFX Lioness (Planetary Fortress - 26,235,400 tons)

9395 SOX tach324 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons)

1 SOX Cargo1000 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons)

1 CTX Lion (Planetary Citadel - 134,544,000 tons)

490 SOX lgrazer (Surface Outpost - 1,400 tons)

550 SOX missle162 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons)

1 CTX Lion 2 (Planetary Citadel - 237,122,940 tons)

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** NAVAL BATTLE REPORT **

----- SEMJAN [ G (Yellow) 0 V ] [single Star] - 3 -----

Imperial Demonic Envelopment # 737 (+14 [Leaders * Lifeform]) ----- Bene Gesserit # 1622 (No Naval Commanders) -----

Total tonnage: 1,489,085,000.....Base Fire Control: 116 [173,522,000,000 bridge]

Phoenix Empire # 3587 (No Naval Commanders) ----- MacroHard # 2496 (No Naval Commanders) ----- Murean Holdfast # 733 (No

Naval Commanders) -----

Total tonnage: 608,102,340.....Base Fire Control: 362 [220,432,972,000 bridge]

666th Plague Fleet Imperial Demonic Envelopment #737 Grand Admiral Set of the Gamma Circle

666th Plague Fleet Imperial Demonic Envelopment #737 Fleet Admiral Temptor of the Beta Circle

------------------------------- ** Imperial Navy Report: Fleet Order of Battle ** ------------------------------------------

Murean Holdfast # 733 [Double Helix Entwining A Black Hole]

45th Swarm [ROE: X] *Standard Line* (Fleet Tonnage: 4,932,000)

[Deploy Location 1] 4932 COZ Screen Echo (Assault Corvette - 1,000 tons [each])

<384,774 Fuel>

------------------------------- ** Imperial Navy Report: Fleet Order of Battle ** ------------------------------------------

666th Plague Fleet [ROE: W] *Standard Line* (Fleet Tonnage: 464,500,000)

[Deploy Location 1] 1 NDNF Leviathan of the Deep (Flag Nova Dreadnaught - 464,500,000 tons [each])

<10 Colony Beacon>--<27,768,360 Fuel>--<4 System Probe>

------------------------------- ** Imperial Navy Report: Fleet Order of Battle ** ------------------------------------------

Bene Gesserit # 1622 [silver Gom Jabbar On Skeletal Finger]

Fleet 1096 [ROE: T] *Gom Jabbar* (Fleet Tonnage: 1,024,585,000)

[Deploy Location 1] 1 NDNF Suicide Blonde (Flag Nova Dreadnaught - 932,230,000 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 1] 1 NDN Chains of Servitude (Nova Dreadnaught - 92,355,000 tons [each])

<498,050 Advanced Construction Materials>--<27 Colony Beacon>--<78,188,695 Fuel>

<14 Imperial Army Mechanized Infantry>--<42 System Probe>

------------------------------- ** Imperial Navy Report: Fleet Order of Battle ** ------------------------------------------

MacroHard # 2496 [Rainbow Stripes]

Scout [ROE: X] *Standard Line* (Fleet Tonnage: 3,564,000)

[Deploy Location 1] 3240 AUXL NanoBOT (Light Auxiliary - 1,100 tons [each])

<788,100 Fuel>

Imperial Demonic Friday, May 15, 2009 Envelopment 737 Page 11 of 1351

------------------------------- ** Imperial Navy Report: Fleet Order of Battle ** ------------------------------------------

Phoenix Empire # 3587 [Cat's Paw On A Field Of Orange, Encircled By Stars]

112th Recon Group [ROE: R] *Column Attack* (Fleet Tonnage: 188,060,000)

[Deploy Location 9] 1 NDN Probe 3 (Nova Dreadnaught - 188,060,000 tons [each])

<3,552 Pharmaceuticals>

Homeworld PDC [ROE: W] *Standard Line* (Fleet Tonnage: 408,534,340)

[Deploy Location 1] 490 SOX lgrazer (Surface Outpost - 1,400 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 1] 1 SOX Cargo1000 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 1] 9395 SOX tach324 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 2] 1 CTX Lion 2 (Planetary Citadel - 237,122,940 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 2] 1 CTX Lion (Planetary Citadel - 134,544,000 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 6] 550 SOX missle162 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons [each])

[Deploy Location 12] 1 PFX Lioness (Planetary Fortress - 26,235,400 tons [each])

Fleet 1001 [ROE: Q] *Column Attack* (Fleet Tonnage: 2,997,000)

[Deploy Location 7] 2997 SOX tach324 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons [each])

2000th EXPL Group [ROE: Q] *Column Attack* (Fleet Tonnage: 15,000)

[Deploy Location 7] 10 CO Lightgrazer (Corvette - 1,500 tons [each])

** Battle Damage Assessment Report **

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 1 ------------------------------------------------------------

NDN Chains of Servitude (Nova Dreadnaught - 92,355,000 tons) [integrity: 2,075,230,000 / 2,075,230,000] [shields:

16,144,379,015 / 80,000,000,000] (Green, Timid)

25,000 Cargo Bay, 1,000 Fuel Shuttle, 12,000,000 Fuel Tankage, 13,000 Mk I Total Conversion Engine

6 Mk IV Holographic Cybernetic Battle Director, 320,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 1 Mk VI Jump Survey Sensor

1 Nuclear Transwarp Drive, 2,000,000 Tckon 68, 120 Type D Spinal Meson Accelerator

Particle Beam: 23,654,400,513

Maneuverability: 36.03, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

NDNF Leviathan of the Deep (Flag Nova Dreadnaught - 464,500,000 tons) [integrity: 20,381,655,680 / 20,381,655,680] [shields:

344,974,222,876 / 375,000,000,000] (Green, Reliable)

10,000 Cargo Bay, 2 Drone Rack, 969 Fuel Shuttle, 46,450,300 Fuel Tankage, 1 Mk I Flag Bridge

852 Mk I Total Conversion Engine, 10,931 Mk IV Gravitic Thruster, 46 Mk IV Holographic Cybernetic Battle Director

232,250 Mk IV Meson Screen, 1,500,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 2 Mk VI Jump Survey Sensor, 1 Nuclear Transwarp Drive

20,000,000 Tckon 68, 206 Type D Spinal Meson Accelerator, 44 Type D Spinal Starbore

Fusion: 96,800,002,098, Particle Beam: 40,606,720,880

Maneuverability: 8.00, Meson Web: 66.70 %, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

NDNF Suicide Blonde (Flag Nova Dreadnaught - 932,230,000 tons) [integrity: 29,788,210,000 / 29,788,210,000] [shields:

756,495,033,151 / 825,000,000,000] (Green, Timid)

500,000 Cargo Bay, 10 Drone Rack, 8,000 Fuel Shuttle, 100,000,000 Fuel Tankage, 260,000 Integrated Molecular Pattern

Stabilizer

1 Mk II Flag Bridge, 46 Mk IV Holographic Cybernetic Battle Director, 17,000 Mk IV Meson Screen

3,300,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 106,000 Mk VI Gravitic Thruster, 1 Mk VI Jump Survey Sensor

1 Nuclear Transwarp Drive, 50 Repair Bay, 29,000,000 Tckon 68, 10 Troop Berthing, 300 Type D Spinal Meson Accelerator

100 Type D Spinal Starbore

Fusion: 220,000,004,768, Particle Beam: 59,136,001,282

Maneuverability: 40.37, Meson Web: 6.80 %, Molecular Pattern Stabilization: 52.80 %, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

** Battle Damage Assessment Report **

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 1 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [65th] SOX Cargo1000 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 1] (Green, Timid)

1,000 Cargo Bay

**DESTROYED** [21288th] SOX lgrazer (Surface Outpost - 1,400 tons) [integrity: 0 / 12,600] (Green, Timid)

1 Light Graser, 1 Mk II Long Range Sensor

Coherent Beam: 11,440

Sensors: 58.90 %

**DESTROYED** [2824th] AUXL NanoBOT (Light Auxiliary - 1,100 tons) [integrity: 0 / 200,560] (Green, Timid)

300 Fuel Tankage, 2 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 1 Light Fusion Bolt, 1 Mk I Nuclear Jump Drive

1 Mk IV Antimatter Engine, 200 Tckon 68

Fusion: 2,112

Maneuverability: 58.18, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

**DESTROYED** [2971st] COZ Screen Echo (Assault Corvette - 1,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 500,320] (Green, Timid)

100 Fuel Tankage, 2 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 1 Mk I Total Conversion Engine, 1 Mk II Nuclear Jump Drive

500 Tckon 68

Maneuverability: 256.00, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

**DESTROYED** [6560th] SOX tach324 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 600,400] (Green, Timid)

4 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 600 Tckon 68

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 2 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [103rd] CTX Lion (Planetary Citadel - 134,544,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 315,791,721,000] [shields: 0 /

410,000,000] (Green, Timid)

7 400cm Spinal Rail Gun, 45,000 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 175 Mk II Holographic Cybernetic Battle Director

15,000 Mk IV Deflector, 1,640 Mk IX Force Shield, 22 Repair Bay, 1,280 Siege Tachyon Blaster

35,000,000 Tckon 68, 4,000 Type D Disintegrator

Energy Disruptor: 7,040,000,153, Matter Disruptor: 7,040,000,153, Particle Beam: 5,406,720,117

Projectile: 1,261,568,027

Deflectors: 30.90 %

**DESTROYED** [102nd] CTX Lion 2 (Planetary Citadel - 237,122,940 tons) [integrity: 0 / 665,705,717,460] [shields: 0 /

110,000,000,000] (Green, Timid)

152 Mk II Meson Screen, 48 Mk III Deflector, 50 Mk IV Holographic Cybernetic Battle Director

440,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 47 Phase Locker, 112 Pulse Laser CIDS, 161 Siege Graser, 6,258 Siege Tachyon Blaster

73,821,000 Tckon 68, 23 Type D Stasis Field Generator

Coherent Beam: 340,032,007, Particle Beam: 26,433,792,573

Black Sphere: 1.20 %, Deflectors: 1.20 %, Displacement: 1.20 %, ECM: 1.20 %, Field Stabilization: 1.20 %

Flux Capacitance: 1.20 %, Meson Web: 1.30 %, Molecular Pattern Stabilization: 1.20 %, Phase Inversion: 1.20 %

Missile Defense: 1.20 %, Reflective Coating: 1.20 %, Screens: 1.20 %, Sensors: 1.20 %, Tachyon Grid: 1.20 %

Thermal Regulation: 1.20 %

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 6 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [2032nd] SOX missle162 (Surface Outpost - 1,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 9,000] (Green, Timid)

2 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 1 Mk VII Standoff Missile

Missile: 204,800

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 7 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [31st] CO Lightgrazer (Corvette - 1,500 tons) [integrity: 0 / 1,480] (Green, Timid)

1 Light Graser, 1 Mk II Long Range Sensor, 1 Mk III Fusion Engine

Coherent Beam: 11,440

Maneuverability: 2.67, Missile Defense: 25.00 %, Sensors: 57.20 %

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 9 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [105th] NDN Probe 3 (Nova Dreadnaught - 188,060,000 tons) [integrity: 0 / 147,440,000] [shields: 0 /

165,000,000,000] (Green, Resolute)

300 Fuel Shuttle, 25,000,000 Fuel Tankage, 25,000 Mk II Total Conversion Engine, 40 Mk IV Holographic Cybernetic Battle

Director

660,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 1 Mk VI Jump Survey Sensor, 1 Nuclear Transwarp Drive, 1,890 Siege Tachyon Blaster

4,000 Type D Disintegrator

Energy Disruptor: 7,040,000,153, Matter Disruptor: 7,040,000,153, Particle Beam: 7,983,360,173

Maneuverability: 38.29, Missile Defense: 50.00 %

-------------------------------------------------- DepLoc 12 ------------------------------------------------------------

**DESTROYED** [104th] PFX Lioness (Planetary Fortress - 26,235,400 tons) [integrity: 0 / 108,137,568,600] [shields: 0 /

1,000,000,000] (Green, Timid)

25,000 Holographic Neural-Feed Battle Grid, 50 Mk I Long Range Sensor, 9,000 Mk IV Deflector

2,000 Mk IV Repulsor CIDS, 4,000 Mk IX Force Shield, 11,913 Mk VII Standoff Missile, 7 Repair Bay

12,000,000 Tckon 68

Missile: 2,439,782,400

Deflectors: 57.90 %, Missile Defense: 23.40 %, Sensors: 0.20 %

----- Post-Battle Damage Assessment Report-----

Side 1

[1] 1 Chains of Servitude class NDN

[1] 1 {Flagship} Leviathan of the Dee class NDNF

[1] 1 {Flagship} Suicide Blonde class NDNF

Side 2

[1] 1 Cargo1000 class SOX..................................................1 Destroyed

[1] 490 lgrazer class SOX..................................................490 Destroyed

[1] 3,240 NanoBOT class AUXL..................................................3240 Destroyed

[1] 4,932 Screen Echo class COZ..................................................4932 Destroyed

[1] 12,392 tach324 class SOX..................................................12392 Destroyed

[2] 1 Lion class CTX..................................................1 Destroyed

[2] 1 Lion 2 class CTX..................................................1 Destroyed

[6] 550 missle162 class SOX..................................................550 Destroyed

[7] 10 Lightgrazer class CO..................................................10 Destroyed

[9] 1 Probe 3 class NDN..................................................1 Destroyed

[12] 1 Lioness class PFX..................................................1 Destroyed

[Locklyn]

Thank you! Nice battle and some pretty good medium sized ships there as well! It is good to see that the flagbridge is finally working as intended, hope it stays fixed

 

Cheers

 

/Locklyn

[WKE235]

What's interesting in the battle is they brought 440 Billion in firepower to the fight versus around 80 Billion for the enemy. Overall their shields absorbed around 160 Billion, cutting it a bit close (well, 16 our of 80 billion shield left) on one NDN. But of course, their weapons concentrated toward the big targets thanks the Mk I Flag Bridge (excpet for some stray shots here and there). So after two rounds of battle, I think they effectively destroyed the shields and blasted the big fortresses to bits. Then they spent another 200+ rounds shooting everything else (Hey Glarg, watch what happens when I shoot that 1000 ton SOX base with 4 Billion in Firepower... POOF!). Was this excellent planning (they lost 0, enemy lost everything), or luck they didn't lose at leasty the smaller of the NDN's?

[hobknob]

All victories are a result of luck while all defeats are the result of careful planning.

 

Looks like they expected a bit more on the defensive side of things.

 

Looking at the other ships in the battle the small NDN now looks like a disposable screening element.